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This is my first real debate and occurred in 1993 in Austin, Texas on Christian Answers programming, a cable television outlet in Austin. Mark ended up converting to Roman Catholicism a few years later, doing just what I thought he would after buying in to their central teaching, the Trinity. Notice the sharp contrast between myself and Mark, me being a plain speaker andÂ a tell like it is speaker and he being a smooth, flowery scholar in line with the Pharisees of old. I should have hammered him on many more things, but I neglected a few. He interrupted constantly and took my time. It won’t happen on my next debate, I can assure you. Watch a master deceiver in action with Mark McNeil. He is good, but I believe the Lord Jesus showed that I was witnessing for him.

Â McCalip/McNeil Debate Parts 1-12

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MACKIE CLARK says:

May 1st, 2009 at 8:56 am

HONESTLY YOU SHOULD TAKE THAT VIDEO OFF,I MEAN I AGREE WITH YOU BUT THAT GUY MADE YOU LOOK LIKE YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHAT YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT,THE SCRIPTURES HE GAVE YOU TO EXPLAIN WAS NOT EXPLAIN THE RIGHT WAY,A ONENESS PERSON THAT DON’T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE ONENESS OF GOD WILL SEE THIS AND LEAN MORE TOWARD THE TRINITY GUY, NOT TO PUT YOU DOWN BUT,IT IS WHAT IT IS,THE QUESTION HE ASK YOU,AND YOU SAID THAT YOU WASN’T PREPARED FOR IT,THAT DIDN’T LOOK GOOD AT ALL,BUT I RESPECT THE FACT THAT YOU DIDN’T TRY TO JUST SAY SOMETHING AND MAKE A MESS LIKE A LOT OF PREACHERS WOULD’VE DONE,BUT BESIDES THAT YOU DID GOOD AND LIKE ALWAYS I GOT A LOT FROM IT,
I TRULY BELIEVE YOU ARE READY NOW….GOD BLESS…

MACKIE CLARK says:

May 1st, 2009 at 9:02 am

AND ONE MORE THING WHERE’S NUMBER 10 OF THE VIDEO

Steve McCalip says:

May 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm

Mackie, if you think that guy made me look bad, then I guess you really like the scholarly,Phariseeical style that uses smooth sounding theological mumbo jumbo.

Gabriel mendez says:

June 8th, 2009 at 8:10 am

Hi there Steve, This very well educated trinitarian who did not wanted to talk about “theoretical philosophy’s problems certainly was thinking of 200-400 A. D. problems. But he also wanted to made sure he mentions that the Trinity is in the Bible.
As far as I am concern, he trick you intu that!

You see, One God Christians at beginning 2nd. century with not Bibles on their hands, only oral tradition of how the Apostles reverent Jesus,whom they saw ascending into heaven, they gave homage to the risen Jesus as to Jehova. They were Jewish converted people! One God believers given honor to a human as to the Creator,why? Because this was preached then “…Risen Jesus the man in who all the fullness of God is”. They were in the habit of meeting together before dawn and signing a hymn TO JESUS AS GOD.” (Kelly p.143)
It was from that, that Greek philosophical first Fathers of the so called Mother Church took Jesus as ALSO GOD, AND FROM JOHN 1:1 the doctrine of the Logos was invented;GOD THE WORD WAS WITH GOD THE FATHER.A hundred+ years later, officially was declared the Spirit to be the Third Person on the Godhead. Then at 400 A.D. the Trinity WAS PUT in the Roman Bible and from there into all Bibles INCLUDING k.j.t. 1611.
Yea, he knew what he was saying about the Trinity is in the Bible; it is BECAUSE “THEY” PUT IT THERE!

Harry says:

August 17th, 2010 at 11:44 am

There is a Divine Trinity, which is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. These three, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, are the three essentials of one God, and they make one as soul, body, and operation make one in man. Before the world was created this Trinity was not; but after creation, when God became incarnate, it was provided and brought about; and then in the Lord God the Redeemer and Savior Jesus Christ. In the ideas of thought a Trinity of Divine Persons from eternity, or before the world was created, is a Trinity of Gods; and these ideas cannot be effaced by a lip-confession of one God. A Trinity of Persons was unknown in the Apostolic church, but was hatched by the Nicene Council, and from that was introduced into the Roman Catholic church, and from that again into the churches separated from it. From the Nicene Trinity and the Athanasian Trinity together a faith arose by which the whole Christian church has been perverted. This is the source of that “abomination of desolation, and that tribulation such as has not been nor ever shall be,” which the Lord foretold in Daniel and in the Gospels and in the Apocalypse. So too, unless a new heaven and a new church were established by the Lord there could no flesh be saved. From a Trinity of Persons, each one of whom singly is God, according to the Athanasian Creed, many discordant and heterogeneous ideas respecting God have arisen, which are phantasies and abortions. These propositions shall now be explained one by one.

Harry